Sometimes I'd like to kick GOG and then kick him some more when he's down..

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I like his astute questions. By deleting them denies me

Posted by GOG on November 14, 2024, 10:49 am, in reply to "Please don't keep posting the same thing. "

the opportunity to respond. Further should a neopagan be trusted to respect a Christian’s posts? Jus saying…..
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This in response to about the hundredth posting of 'Is evolution true?' by idiot troll Devo.

Selfish, arrogant, paranoid, and crazy. Devo too.  And who trusts the Christians on that board to 'respect' anything other than their own superstitions?

Since he is into posting his REPEATED WHINES in public on his own board now,  I'll share my emailed response to him:

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I warned you NOT to post that on your board!

You've posted that MULTIPLE TIMES in the Back Alley (and via email) and I have answered you just as many times. You REFUSE to accept my answer every time. 

I don't allow anyone to attack you or your board on the main Blue Board. However, the Back Alley is MEANT for fussing about other boards or posters. Since you mentioned greenman, hear this: You have essentially silenced greenman from being able to have his say by banning him from R&E. So he has it there. 

How DARE you try to twist my arm by posting that once again, only this time on R&E to bring on your pals to trash me!  

You have now deliberately put me on the firing range to be a target there and on other boards. 

Once again, the answer is NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!

GOT IT NOW? 

We are no longer friends nor do I wish to be. 

I will no longer assist you with your board either. Have fun keeping up now.  

You SHOULD have listened when I warned you NOT to post this on your board.

There will be NO FURTHER DISCUSSION between us about this going forward.    



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I will add that it is beyond STUPID that anyone emails HIM about "being upset" about anything said about them here.  (of course, I KNOW who it was and he is an IDIOT who MORE than deserves anything said about him here given what HE has to say elsewhere but thinks WE shouldn't be able to reciprocate here).  ONE guess who that is.  UGH.  Troublemaker and HYPOCRITE extraordinaire that one!

Ken KNOWS that I don't allow ANYONE to trash him or R&E on the main board, which IS reciprocation of his "courtesy". 

But he wants NO ONE to be able to say ANYTHING about him ANYWHERE because he can't handle criticism. I'm quite sure THAT is the real reason that he banned you from his board.

He ignores the FACT that every OTHER board has their own ability to respond to things they don't like about me, you, anyone... and they most certainly DO... ALL THE TIME.

However, the difference is that I DON'T GO THERE TO READ and then fuss and whine about it as if they have NO right to post as they please. 

Ken told me MULTIPLE times to "just not read" stuff posted elsewhere and that he (supposedly) doesn't.  Yet, he DOES... ALL THE TIME.  He comes here EVERY SINGLE DAY, logged in so it's obvious, and then reads every word looking for offense and complaining about it no matter how many times I've told him that I WON'T silence anyone here and that HE needs to STOP coming over here if it upsets him so much.

He is INCAPABLE of taking NO for an answer and has NOW crossed the line.  Since this is unmoderated here, I let him have HIS say criticizing and whining and complaining.  But I've no obligation to tolerate it ANYWHERE else and I WON'T.

 

Oh, and I noticed that Ken removed HH's negative comments to Scott, but KEPT Scott AND GOG's multiple DNR violations of my DNRs against them.

So brave. 

He DELIBERATELY caused this mess, chose to put a TARGET on my back and now won't respond to charges against him?

Coward!  and hypocritical to the MAX!
 

greenman wrote:

All true and reprehensible. I see multiple attacks on you, me, and this board over there now, mostly by the usual suspects.

[And of course I see political posts by GOG, who seems to thing that right-wing, pro-Trump posts, and anti-Atheist posts, are OK (so do drones like Deanna and Observer) but that anything 'liberal' or offensive to their religious beliefs is completely objectionable.]

I knew when Kenniboi started letting those white-board slugs onto his board they'd try to take it over. It's what fascist-minded types DO. And then accuse OTHERS of it.

As to regular criticisms of his board, I'm willing to tone it down if that would help. I can log on to this board directly without going through his; that would also prevent me seeing the travesty it has become. It's not like I want anything to do with him, or he with me.

Let him police his own board. Not my job.

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No need.  Ken is now Scott's PUPPET. Scott has been whining to him about our comments for months now, while HE continues to make nasty, hateful comments over on white whine as well as sneak hateful comments and continuous DNR violations against me into his posts.

Scott wants to be Ken's right hand boy and to takeover the informal role I played in helping Ken. The difference is that I NEVER, EVER violated Ken's rules while Scott ROUTINELY does and he still has the NERVE to whine to him.  Even years ago, before I began helping Ken by emailing violations for him to decide on, I "told on myself" when I posted something I shouldn't have.  I NEVER tried to sneak in violations.  If I couldn't resist, I reported it to him to remove.  Surely he remembers that.

Scott CONSTANTLY violates his rules and tries to drive people to leave.  I NEVER did that.   I also reported both friend and foe for violating rules whenever I saw them.  If he claims otherwise, that's a lie!  Scott won't do that, bet on it!  In recent months, I've spent less and less time scanning R&E for violations because, well, WHY SHOULD I? Ken constantly chooses to allow certain posters to violate his rules without warnings or penalties aside of deletions, while he just banned you right away the second you left there furious over unfair treatment.

Scott is a HYPOCRITE and a PHONY CHRISTIAN.  He always has been.

Let's not forget that Scott, personally, drove Pikes to quit R&E along with Shadow/Sophia/Observer and GOG.  That is his MISSION there.  To change R&E to HIS vision of a board by manipulating Ken with his endless complaints suggesting that he'll leave R&E if Ken doesn't DO SOMETHING about this forum. As IF Ken had any control over it.  He should have just given him the advice not to read here, advice he should take for himself.

I happen to KNOW that Trish is reconsidering whether she will remain there as his "helper".  Ken CONSTANTLY undermines her and tolerates the likes of GOG and Devo.

I'm DONE helping him.  Let him spend ALL of his minimal free time policing his board all by himself.  He will quickly become overwhelmed because it is a free for all over there and will become so much worse without someone cluing him into repeated violations.

I am sad that it came to this.  I was honestly Ken's friend, as you know from my repeatedly telling you that over the years.  But HE is no friend to me.  Not when he will NOT take my answer seriously and keeps complaining about the same thing and when he DELIBERATELY set me up for attacks on his own board after I WARNED him not to do it and what would result.  Well, it happened exactly as predicted. That's a shame but it is what it is.

Ken fancies himself as being fair and evenhanded with posters.  THAT is a JOKE.  He tolerates CONSTANT violations of DNRs and highly targeted, hateful rhetoric that drives posters away such as:

Sir Real being constantly called an Anti-Semite mostly by DFM, SES, and others until he left after Ken REFUSED to DO ANYTHING about it.

GOG and Devo causing Trish to have second and third thoughts about staying there.

and many others over the years who've just left quietly due to GOG, jb, SES, Shadow, and others.

Personal attacks on Pikes' Christian beliefs that drove him out. Thank phony-SCOTT and psycho-Shadow for that.

Dancing Digits routinely leaves R&E due to the rampant nastiness there, but returns in cycles.

Ken decided to create rules for HIS forum that he DEMANDS that I agree to and follow.  I NEVER asked for him to do ANY of the stuff he claims he "did for me" that I won't reciprocate.   No matter how MANY times I've told him here and privately that I will NOT turn this board into an extension of HIM by not allowing anyone to speak of him or R&E, he simply will NOT hear my answer. 

I TOLD him NOT to post that crap on R&E else it would blow up in his face and he wouldn't like it... (paraphrased).

He did and it did.  END OF STORY

 

Ken's protestations of innocence and victimhood are ringing falser with every occurrence.

As are those of his buddy GOG.

A board whose posts are mostly coming from GOG, scott, DFM and DEVO is a board in serious trouble.  If not for Chris Blackwell, there would seldom be a serious or thoughtful post to that board.

Last edited by greenman (11/20/2024 1:13 pm)

Ken pretends that he's innocent of any blame related to the Blue Boards and plays the victim in regard to your own comments - that you're mistreating him instead of the other way around.

This is the kind of stupid, pointless crap his board has become known for:

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Is your religion true? - Devo November 20, 2024, 12:40 pm


What's your view on Richard Dawkins? - Devo November 20, 2024, 11:48 am

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A deliberately obnoxious and non-responsive TROLL is allowed to stink up the board with repetitive questions on a daily basis.

Incompetence.

LOL there are 9 guests reading here.

Oh the drama Ken caused!

I know you hate me, Kenniboi.

I can only assure you that the feeling is mutual, you little whining tattletale.

Your board needs to go down in flames, and you need to go back to driving your little electric car around and whining about your job.

Stop pretending that you are a fit board monitor.

I'm sorry to see that Trish is walking away from the board; she was an element of peace and kind understanding which it desperately needed. It's too bad that so many had such little regard for her and always argued every time she tried to impose a little discipline.

She's always been kind to me there, and I hope she never thought I was criticizing her (unpaid) work there.

I honestly never was..

Never ..I will have a moment tn realize the commentary isn't personal

I'm done there too.  Not returning.

I hope that Dancing Digits posts on Blue sometimes.  She is a member so there's hope.

Scott is a JOKE, always has been. He is also a LIAR and PHONY!  He clearly wants control of R&E.  LOL.  He drives people off, particularly when they discover that he is a FRAUD.

Spawn of Satan???  WTH?


 

OMG, THIS is Ken's response to Trish's retirement post...  Any doubt left that Ken simply doesn't understand how to relate to people or what sort of comment is TONE DEAF? 

Trish contributed immeasurable assistance to him, deleting the bulk of the offenses that he either ignored or didn't notice.  Trish will tell you how much I helped them by sending reports complete with links and the full text of what I considered violations to spare the both of them having to take the time, neither had, to read it all since I was already reading the threads on a TIMELY basis. 

What's the point of deletions several hours or even DAYS afterwards and all but never issuing warnings to posters who constantly violated his rules?  That is what typically happened if Trish was not online and Ken was busy elsewhere. That is exactly what is going to happen going forward now.

Also, the irony of asking posters to send him reports of "abusive posts" when he JUST claimed that he can handle it alone is very funny, even if totally sad.  LOL

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KEN:
When I first started running this board there were over 1,000 message per day.  

Posted by Ken C on November 22, 2024, 12:54 pm, in reply to "Time to retire"

Edited by board administrator November 22, 2024, 12:55 pm 

I think I can handle it now without any help.

My email address is at the top of the board. Anyone who notices an abusive post is welcome to email me.


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This was Trish's post for anyone who didn't see it...

Time to retire 

Posted by ADMIN on November 20, 2024, 9:01 pm


 Administrator Grasshopper This is a rather long post, so please bear with me.

I watched MSNBCi slide into the sunset. Many in the community wanted a new home. R&E was born.

Over the years, we’ve watched people leave. A few died, and we miss them. The rest got tired of adult shenanigans-people who know full well the rules and break them for & and giggles. Then, others try to control the way the board runs, even though guidelines are clearly stated. They stomp and yell but never Email as they should.

Meanwhile, you have two unpaid people trying to hold things together. It’s not working.
IMO, she is dying. Oh, there will be a few blowhards determined to gobble up space, bait, and start flame wars, but beyond that … just take a long look. The number of real discussions shrinks steadily.

I have tried my best in 25 years to enforce the rules, and then some proverbial Yahoo decides, “Hey, I’ll break them again (and again and again),” and pretend they don’t know why something was deleted. It’s childish, attention-seeking behavior.

So, I resign. Those who didn’t want a Pagan moderator, you get your wish. As of 11/30 I return my cap to Ken. I will probably post periodically on Blu, but my time here is done.

Good luck. I hope things will change and I’m proven wrong. For now, however, I’ve reached my BS limit.

For those who remain with whom I enjoy discussion, you know where to find me.

In Good Will
Trish
 
 
 

He's so intelligent and curious. One of the biggest assets at Yellow in recent years.

Consistently posts intelligent comments.

I hope we can all get past all of this ugliness soon.  I don't plan to keep up raging against Ken for what happened over there.  It happened and that's the end of it.  Ken made his choices and that's his right.  Just as it is my right to just turn away from him to avoid any further anger or fury against those choices.

I don't have the energy to stay enraged about stuff I cannot control or even understand the reasons behind.  I am SURE that it was Scott's influence given what Ken sent to me via email (that I won't post publicly since it was a private exchange).  It left NO DOUBT as to WHY Ken turned on me and PUBLICLY pushed for something I'd already responded to 20+ times before on his board even after I'd warned him not to else he wouldn't like the results.  ie: I would leave R&E and abandon our friendship.  I was doubly inclined to do BOTH after the unwarranted and totally unfair email that Ken sent to me after the fact. 

He's a bituvan odd duck and sees the world a certain way. So, let him.  That's his right.

That doesn't mean that I won't comment on the stupidity of some of the posters over there who've "taken over".  I'm sure that I will. But I'm done being SO ANGRY... for now.

I'm also not someone who goes where I am clearly not wanted.  So, I won't.  I'm NOT "that person".