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dislike of policy does not equate to a "death wishes, While I had anticipated seeing even more nastiness, Certain people are making wild accusations toward us. I was going to offer sportsmanlike wishes today Until I saw disgusting claims, May they reap all that god
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Sometimes I'd like to kick GOG and then kick him some more when he's down..
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I like his astute questions. By deleting them denies me
Posted by GOG on November 14, 2024, 10:49 am, in reply to "Please don't keep posting the same thing. "
the opportunity to respond. Further should a neopagan be trusted to respect a Christian’s posts? Jus saying…..
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This in response to about the hundredth posting of 'Is evolution true?' by idiot troll Devo.
Selfish, arrogant, paranoid, and crazy. Devo too. And who trusts the Christians on that board to 'respect' anything other than their own superstitions?
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New level of arrogance and interference from Ken:
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Posted by Ken C (Admin) on November 19, 2024, 5:28 pm
Sia, I'm tired of the war in Ukraine. I'm tired of the conflicts in the Middle East. I'm tired of the political conflicts in USA between the two main political parties. We can't stop all that. All we can control is what happens in our personal lives and on our forums.
I saw your post about "interboard wars" here: I see you want peace. I want peace too. I want to promote peace between all these linked forums, so I am posting this interboard peace discussion.
For about 4 years I have not allowed anyone here to trash the Blue Board or any other forum. I have not allowed anyone here to bash other forums or bash posters from other forums. I have removed all posts bashing the Blue Board as soon as I saw them. I have posted many warnings for people who did try to bash the Blue Board. During those same 4 years you have not reciprocated. For the last 4 years there have been many posts on your Back Alley trashing my forum and the people who post here. For 4 years I have been harassed, bullied and lied about by one person on your Back Alley.
Sometimes I get emails from people who are upset about being bashed on the Back Alley. I'm afraid the Back Alley is driving some people away from posting on R&E.
I'm trying to do the right thing and treat you and your forum fairly, but it's not working and you have not reciprocated and agreed to stop bashing my forum.
I am temporarily removing my rule about other forums, so we can discuss this issue openly without that rule getting in the way. This a peace discussion. This is not a threat. I want to discuss peace between our two forums.
I request a peace treaty between our two forums. I will continue to not allow posters to bash the blue board or posters on the blue board. I request that you reciprocate and not allow anyone to bash the yellow board or people on the yellow board.
You could still do all that bashing and complaining by email. You and your friends in the Back Alley can set up a group email. You could discuss other forums with each other in private.
We can't stop the war in Ukraine. We can't stop the war in Middle East. All we have control over is our personal lives and our forums. Please let us have peace between our two forums. Please agree to my peace treaty.
I'm open to compromise and concession. If you don't like this proposal, you are welcome to offer alternative suggestions for peace between our forums.
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Like that fascist cretin Mongo, Ken has the twin problems of being unable not to view the Back Alley - which is none of his business - and being continually offended by it, ignoring the problems created by himself and his posters on his own board, which has gone downhill for years.
What he calls 'peace' I call censorship; he wants to prohibit this board and those of us who post here from criticizing him or his board. I say he has NO RIGHT to expect any such thing, and that his complaints should be rejected. A person who allows more than 25 pairs of posters to prevent another given poster from posting to them has no business lecturing others on how to run a board.
And if can't deal with that, ban him from these boards entirely. As someone banned (after leaving it) from his board, simply because I increasingly disagreed from the idiots who infest it, I feel that his attempts to interfere over here deserve removal.
His sanctimoniousness and pretense of innocence make him intolerable. How he runs his own board is his business; he has no right to demand that Sia run hers the same way.
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Since he is into posting his REPEATED WHINES in public on his own board now, I'll share my emailed response to him:
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I warned you NOT to post that on your board!
You've posted that MULTIPLE TIMES in the Back Alley (and via email) and I have answered you just as many times. You REFUSE to accept my answer every time.
I don't allow anyone to attack you or your board on the main Blue Board. However, the Back Alley is MEANT for fussing about other boards or posters. Since you mentioned greenman, hear this: You have essentially silenced greenman from being able to have his say by banning him from R&E. So he has it there.
How DARE you try to twist my arm by posting that once again, only this time on R&E to bring on your pals to trash me!
You have now deliberately put me on the firing range to be a target there and on other boards.
Once again, the answer is NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!
GOT IT NOW?
We are no longer friends nor do I wish to be.
I will no longer assist you with your board either. Have fun keeping up now.
You SHOULD have listened when I warned you NOT to post this on your board.
There will be NO FURTHER DISCUSSION between us about this going forward.
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I will add that it is beyond STUPID that anyone emails HIM about "being upset" about anything said about them here. (of course, I KNOW who it was and he is an IDIOT who MORE than deserves anything said about him here given what HE has to say elsewhere but thinks WE shouldn't be able to reciprocate here). ONE guess who that is. UGH. Troublemaker and HYPOCRITE extraordinaire that one!
Ken KNOWS that I don't allow ANYONE to trash him or R&E on the main board, which IS reciprocation of his "courtesy".
But he wants NO ONE to be able to say ANYTHING about him ANYWHERE because he can't handle criticism. I'm quite sure THAT is the real reason that he banned you from his board.
He ignores the FACT that every OTHER board has their own ability to respond to things they don't like about me, you, anyone... and they most certainly DO... ALL THE TIME.
However, the difference is that I DON'T GO THERE TO READ and then fuss and whine about it as if they have NO right to post as they please.
Ken told me MULTIPLE times to "just not read" stuff posted elsewhere and that he (supposedly) doesn't. Yet, he DOES... ALL THE TIME. He comes here EVERY SINGLE DAY, logged in so it's obvious, and then reads every word looking for offense and complaining about it no matter how many times I've told him that I WON'T silence anyone here and that HE needs to STOP coming over here if it upsets him so much.
He is INCAPABLE of taking NO for an answer and has NOW crossed the line. Since this is unmoderated here, I let him have HIS say criticizing and whining and complaining. But I've no obligation to tolerate it ANYWHERE else and I WON'T.
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Ken asked me not to post about him or against R&E here or to join in to any bashing of him. So, I haven't said anything against him since he asked... Until NOW.
NOW we are no longer friends because of what he did after being explicitly told not to else he wouldn't like the results.
But that's as far as his right to ask for anything here went.
He thinks we should set up an EMAIL chain if we want to say anything about his board??? How idiotic! Many posters here don't have other posters' here's emails and I'm NOT about to make them public to one another.
All he needs to do is MIND HIS OWN BUSINESS and STOP coming over here to get himself all worked up because "someone doesn't like him"... WHY would you like him after how he's repeatedly banned you for less than he tolerates from others on his board?
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Oh, and I noticed that Ken removed HH's negative comments to Scott, but KEPT Scott AND GOG's multiple DNR violations of my DNRs against them.
So brave.
He DELIBERATELY caused this mess, chose to put a TARGET on my back and now won't respond to charges against him?
Coward! and hypocritical to the MAX!
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All true and reprehensible. I see multiple attacks on you, me, and this board over there now, mostly by the usual suspects.
[And of course I see political posts by GOG, who seems to thing that right-wing, pro-Trump posts, and anti-Atheist posts, are OK (so do drones like Deanna and Observer) but that anything 'liberal' or offensive to their religious beliefs is completely objectionable.]
I knew when Kenniboi started letting those white-board slugs onto his board they'd try to take it over. It's what fascist-minded types DO. And then accuse OTHERS of it.
As to regular criticisms of his board, I'm willing to tone it down if that would help. I can log on to this board directly without going through his; that would also prevent me seeing the travesty it has become. It's not like I want anything to do with him, or he with me.
Let him police his own board. Not my job.
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greenman wrote:
All true and reprehensible. I see multiple attacks on you, me, and this board over there now, mostly by the usual suspects.
[And of course I see political posts by GOG, who seems to thing that right-wing, pro-Trump posts, and anti-Atheist posts, are OK (so do drones like Deanna and Observer) but that anything 'liberal' or offensive to their religious beliefs is completely objectionable.]
I knew when Kenniboi started letting those white-board slugs onto his board they'd try to take it over. It's what fascist-minded types DO. And then accuse OTHERS of it.
As to regular criticisms of his board, I'm willing to tone it down if that would help. I can log on to this board directly without going through his; that would also prevent me seeing the travesty it has become. It's not like I want anything to do with him, or he with me.
Let him police his own board. Not my job.
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No need. Ken is now Scott's PUPPET. Scott has been whining to him about our comments for months now, while HE continues to make nasty, hateful comments over on white whine as well as sneak hateful comments and continuous DNR violations against me into his posts.
Scott wants to be Ken's right hand boy and to takeover the informal role I played in helping Ken. The difference is that I NEVER, EVER violated Ken's rules while Scott ROUTINELY does and he still has the NERVE to whine to him. Even years ago, before I began helping Ken by emailing violations for him to decide on, I "told on myself" when I posted something I shouldn't have. I NEVER tried to sneak in violations. If I couldn't resist, I reported it to him to remove. Surely he remembers that.
Scott CONSTANTLY violates his rules and tries to drive people to leave. I NEVER did that. I also reported both friend and foe for violating rules whenever I saw them. If he claims otherwise, that's a lie! Scott won't do that, bet on it! In recent months, I've spent less and less time scanning R&E for violations because, well, WHY SHOULD I? Ken constantly chooses to allow certain posters to violate his rules without warnings or penalties aside of deletions, while he just banned you right away the second you left there furious over unfair treatment.
Scott is a HYPOCRITE and a PHONY CHRISTIAN. He always has been.
Let's not forget that Scott, personally, drove Pikes to quit R&E along with Shadow/Sophia/Observer and GOG. That is his MISSION there. To change R&E to HIS vision of a board by manipulating Ken with his endless complaints suggesting that he'll leave R&E if Ken doesn't DO SOMETHING about this forum. As IF Ken had any control over it. He should have just given him the advice not to read here, advice he should take for himself.
I happen to KNOW that Trish is reconsidering whether she will remain there as his "helper". Ken CONSTANTLY undermines her and tolerates the likes of GOG and Devo.
I'm DONE helping him. Let him spend ALL of his minimal free time policing his board all by himself. He will quickly become overwhelmed because it is a free for all over there and will become so much worse without someone cluing him into repeated violations.
I am sad that it came to this. I was honestly Ken's friend, as you know from my repeatedly telling you that over the years. But HE is no friend to me. Not when he will NOT take my answer seriously and keeps complaining about the same thing and when he DELIBERATELY set me up for attacks on his own board after I WARNED him not to do it and what would result. Well, it happened exactly as predicted. That's a shame but it is what it is.
Ken fancies himself as being fair and evenhanded with posters. THAT is a JOKE. He tolerates CONSTANT violations of DNRs and highly targeted, hateful rhetoric that drives posters away such as:
Sir Real being constantly called an Anti-Semite mostly by DFM, SES, and others until he left after Ken REFUSED to DO ANYTHING about it.
GOG and Devo causing Trish to have second and third thoughts about staying there.
and many others over the years who've just left quietly due to GOG, jb, SES, Shadow, and others.
Personal attacks on Pikes' Christian beliefs that drove him out. Thank phony-SCOTT and psycho-Shadow for that.
Dancing Digits routinely leaves R&E due to the rampant nastiness there, but returns in cycles.
Ken decided to create rules for HIS forum that he DEMANDS that I agree to and follow. I NEVER asked for him to do ANY of the stuff he claims he "did for me" that I won't reciprocate. No matter how MANY times I've told him here and privately that I will NOT turn this board into an extension of HIM by not allowing anyone to speak of him or R&E, he simply will NOT hear my answer.
I TOLD him NOT to post that crap on R&E else it would blow up in his face and he wouldn't like it... (paraphrased).
He did and it did. END OF STORY
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Someone complaining to Ken and whining that they will leave his board because of a board Ken CAN'T control is nothing but BLATANT MANIPULATION to change R&E to suit the complainer.
We all know WHO did the complaining and threatening as well as WHY he did it. He already drove Pikes out.
That Ken hasn't figured that out for himself is highly revealing.
Not once did I ever threaten Ken with leaving if he didn't do what I thought that he should do and certainly would NEVER threaten such if he couldn't control what some OTHER board does.
What a flippin' JOKE, especially since that individual does EXACTLY the same thing to ME elsewhere.
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Ken's protestations of innocence and victimhood are ringing falser with every occurrence.
As are those of his buddy GOG.
A board whose posts are mostly coming from GOG, scott, DFM and DEVO is a board in serious trouble. If not for Chris Blackwell, there would seldom be a serious or thoughtful post to that board.
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greenman wrote:
Ken's protestations of innocence and victimhood are ringing falser with every occurrence.
As are those of his buddy GOG.
A board whose posts are mostly coming from GOG, scott, DFM and DEVO is a board in serious trouble. If not for Chris Blackwell, there would seldom be a serious or thoughtful post to that board.
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Protestations of innocence and victimhood? Not sure what you mean?
Agreed on the level of serious or thoughtful posts. Hard to find many there nowadays.
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Ken pretends that he's innocent of any blame related to the Blue Boards and plays the victim in regard to your own comments - that you're mistreating him instead of the other way around.
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greenman wrote:
Ken pretends that he's innocent of any blame related to the Blue Boards and plays the victim in regard to your own comments - that you're mistreating him instead of the other way around.
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Ahhh.. Very true.
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This is the kind of stupid, pointless crap his board has become known for:
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Is your religion true? - Devo November 20, 2024, 12:40 pm
What's your view on Richard Dawkins? - Devo November 20, 2024, 11:48 am
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A deliberately obnoxious and non-responsive TROLL is allowed to stink up the board with repetitive questions on a daily basis.
Incompetence.
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Oh, but he's on topic! (dripping sarcasm)
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LOL there are 9 guests reading here.
Oh the drama Ken caused!
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Oh, and I noticed that Ken removed HH's negative comments to Scott, but KEPT Scott AND GOG's multiple DNR violations of my DNRs against them.
So brave.
He DELIBERATELY caused this mess, chose to put a TARGET on my back and now won't respond to charges against him?
Coward! and hypocritical to the MAX!
I'm not afraid of you, I have been avoiding you. I'm not even sure what I am being charged with here.
HH is permanently banned. He is the worst flamer I have ever encountered. I always remove his posts.
I banned greenman for excessive and extreme personal attacks. These are some saved examples of his posts:
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FOAD, turdboy.
Posted by greenman on February 22, 2024, 3:53 pm, in reply to "OK.... Uhhh... bye...."
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Well feel free
Posted by greenman on February 22, 2024, 3:37 pm, in reply to "Nah... just cupcakes.... I get them smuggled in from Colombia..."
..to shove a dozen or so up your ass, you POS.
Congratulations on being an even bigger asshat than usual…
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Well feel free - greenman February 22, 2024, 3:37 pm
NTR - Sprout February 22, 2024, 3:40 pm
You enormous f—-g p****. - greenman February 22, 2024, 3:46 pm
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You lied like a rug
Posted by greenman on February 28, 2024, 1:36 pm, in reply to "I distorted nothing... I poked holes in a foolish idea."
..then pretended it had to do with something zi said.
GFY
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You should be fed to Hamas
Posted by greenman on March 5, 2024, 7:51 am, in reply to "Re: "Israel’s worst humiliation of [the United States] I’ve ever seen""
Maybe they’d put you in a wood-chipper..
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I know you hate me, Kenniboi.
I can only assure you that the feeling is mutual, you little whining tattletale.
Your board needs to go down in flames, and you need to go back to driving your little electric car around and whining about your job.
Stop pretending that you are a fit board monitor.
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As always Ken, you ignore the obvious and deflect from what is actually said.
You deleted HH comments but ALLOWED REPEATED DNR VIOLATIONS by both Scott and GOG in your unwise and deliberate FLAME thread!!!
I warned you what the result would be if you posted that CRAP on R&E after 20+ times posting or emailing your endless "request for peace" to me.
As expected, you deliberately hung me out to dry to be attacked by those who have absolutely NO business being involved in our quarrel, knowing full well what would transpire.
Did you somehow believe that you could pressure me to give you what you have repeatedly demanded?
You've been answered every time and it explained to you repeatedly but you REFUSE to accept any answer but the one you seek!
Get a clue, the answer is NO and it will always be NO! We don't have DNRs here!!!!
Claiming I've never reciprocated your efforts to disallow attacks on me or on Blue is just a LIE. On the main board, no one is allowed to trash you or R&E. If you and mongo didn't constantly make a fuss about this board INTENDED to allow the anger and ugliness out but OFF of the main board, then no one would bother looking!
You have allowed sh*t posters to takeover R&E and are reaping what you've sown!
Now you've driven Trish away from your board. Congratulations!
This isn't about greenman! This is about trashing a decade long friendship and informal partnership with me over your inability to handle (often) deserved criticism or to just STOP obsessing about this forum!
There's so much more but I'm tired of repeating myself because you just won't hear what is being said to you.
Oh, and I would never expect or want you to be afraid of ME! You are afraid of facing reality.
Great job of avoiding me! LOL. If you actually were avoiding me, you wouldn't have responded here to a tiny fraction of what I said to/about you and then gone off on greenman as if THAT is what this about!
WAKE UP!