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5/23/2019 8:40 pm  #1


Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

 The fate of Trump's financial records has ironically landed in the hands of Merrick Garland's court
 
May 21, 2019

 Oh, the irony.

 President Trump's attorneys have filed an appeal after a federal judge ruled on Monday that Trump could not block a House subpoena of his financial records. The appeal, Politico reports, will be heard by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, which is headed by none other than Merrick Garland (though Garland won't necessarily be on the three-judge panel that will hear the actual appeal).

 Garland was nominated by former President Barack Obama for the Supreme Court in early 2016 to replace former Justice Antonin Scalia after his death, but the Republican-controlled Senate infamously refused to to even consider Garland's nomination, claiming Obama's dwindling time in office meant that he should not have the authority to choose a justice who would serve long past the end of his presidency. So instead, lawmakers stalled until after the 2016 presidential election, which resulted in a Trump victory and, subsequently, the appointment of the more conservative Justice Neil Gorsuch.

 Now, it's possible the GOP's decision to block Garland could actually serve as a thorn in the president's side — at least in this instance. But it's also likely this won't be the final time Garland will be in the middle of Trump's battles with Congress.

Tim O'Donnell     


Matthew Miller  @matthewamiller
Replying to @matthewamiller

 I wonder who the chief judge is in the circuit where
all of the fights between Congress and Trump will
play out and whether he cares about partisan norm-busting.
Oh that's right...it's some guy named Merrick Garland. 

16.9K 5:11 PM - May 20, 2019

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5/23/2019 10:58 pm  #2


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

Siagiah wrote:

 The fate of Trump's financial records has ironically landed in the hands of Merrick Garland's court
 
May 21, 2019

 Oh, the irony.

 President Trump's attorneys have filed an appeal after a federal judge ruled on Monday that Trump could not block a House subpoena of his financial records. The appeal, Politico reports, will be heard by the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, which is headed by none other than Merrick Garland (though Garland won't necessarily be on the three-judge panel that will hear the actual appeal).

 Garland was nominated by former President Barack Obama for the Supreme Court in early 2016 to replace former Justice Antonin Scalia after his death, but the Republican-controlled Senate infamously refused to to even consider Garland's nomination, claiming Obama's dwindling time in office meant that he should not have the authority to choose a justice who would serve long past the end of his presidency. So instead, lawmakers stalled until after the 2016 presidential election, which resulted in a Trump victory and, subsequently, the appointment of the more conservative Justice Neil Gorsuch.

 Now, it's possible the GOP's decision to block Garland could actually serve as a thorn in the president's side — at least in this instance. But it's also likely this won't be the final time Garland will be in the middle of Trump's battles with Congress.

Tim O'Donnell     


Matthew Miller  @matthewamiller
Replying to @matthewamiller

 I wonder who the chief judge is in the circuit where
all of the fights between Congress and Trump will
play out and whether he cares about partisan norm-busting.
Oh that's right...it's some guy named Merrick Garland. 

16.9K 5:11 PM - May 20, 2019

6,598 people are talking about this
 

A Garland hearing will make Trump squeal like a stuck hog. A Garland ruling even more so. Trump can play the victim, shinging more slit onto the "deep state" conspiracy lie he routinely feeds for his wimditted base. 


You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
 

5/24/2019 10:36 am  #3


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

From what I have seen, it wouldn't really matter who the judge is. The original opinions are so well written and the Trump arguments are so non-existent that there's nothing for a higher judge to overturn it on.

Nonetheless... I do love Garland getting his opportunities to uphold the law when Republicans have tried to dismiss it.


 

5/24/2019 1:03 pm  #4


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

Amadeus wrote:

From what I have seen, it wouldn't really matter who the judge is. The original opinions are so well written and the Trump arguments are so non-existent that there's nothing for a higher judge to overturn it on.

Nonetheless... I do love Garland getting his opportunities to uphold the law when Republicans have tried to dismiss it.

Trump will still squeal like a stuck pig. It's all he can do. It's all he does. He'll do it to appeal to his base, in effort to move them to threaten their representation. 

Last night, in dead of night, Trump signed an order to his Sec'y of Ag, Sonny Perdue, to release $28 billion in relief funds for American farmers. 

Why? 

Losses incurred to the China-Trump tariff war.
Trump used the word farmers to invoke an image. 

What farmers does he mean to protect?
- Monsanto
-Dow Chemical
-Conagra
-Bayer
-Du Pont Pioneer 
-Syngenta
-Chemchina
-Cargill et al...

 


You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
 

5/24/2019 6:04 pm  #5


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

WHAT is it going to take for his base to see him for what he is ??? 

I get it that "they knew" he was a crude, rude, philanderer, but they ALSO thought he was a brilliant businessman who could do great things for America.  He isn't and he can't.  So, what's left to "like" ??

 

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5/24/2019 10:17 pm  #6


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

Siagiah wrote:

WHAT is it going to take for his base to see him for what he is ??? 

I get it that "they knew" he was a crude, rude, philanderer, but they ALSO thought he was a brilliant businessman who could do great things for America.  He isn't and he can't.  So, what's left to "like" ??

 

Doubtful his base will. They're too proud, too stubborn, and they twisted Trump's lies into things they can believe. Simultaneously they shifted those same lies onto Obama, Clinton, Comey, Clapper, Brennan in the most remarkable conspiracy theory to appear on the American scene. This is worse than the McCarthy communist scare, and they own this president. 

If those agencies are as corrupt as Trump and his base say, then America has been rotten to the core for decades. Such rot could not exist long. Therefore it can't be true. The longer Trump remains in office, the more likely he and his appointments are to actualize and realize that threat. 

 


You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
 

5/25/2019 10:38 am  #7


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

Trump suffers from crippling ED. At press briefings, all happenstance because Trump avoids press conferences, he speaks incoherently, rambling from one idea to another, few rarely finished, as his mind wanders around in something of a trial and error search for the best lie he can tell at the moment. His ED (Early Dementia) impaired him up to two decades ago or longer, according to people close to him, and appears to be getting worse. Hundreds of mental health care professionals signed off on a petition for Congress to open hearings under the 25 Amendment, to consider Trump's ED and mental fitness.


You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
 

5/25/2019 8:41 pm  #8


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

The problem is that the GOP absolutely will NOT cooperate.  They were content to hide former President Reagan's declining mental health from the public too.  However, at least he had reasonably competent aides and cabinet who could pick up his slack, even if it was dishonest to hide Reagan's mental decline.  Back then, he was still mostly "all there", but was showing signs of what seemed to be age-related memory issues.  Alas, it was actually Alzheimer's, but THEN, it wasn't THAT bad.

tRUMP's decline is of a brain & temperament already disadvantaged and dangerous.  His behavior is outrageous and, once upon a time, would have resulted in questions by ALL SIDES of the political aisle.  Voters would have quickly turned against him and he'd likely have NEVER gotten so far.  I can't begin to imagine what it must be like for rank & file GOP to see how MUCH damage he's done to their party and to this country.

 

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5/25/2019 10:49 pm  #9


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

The GOP will see it clearly with their 20/20 hindsight.
Their 50/50 foresight was both blind to it, and ignored. 
Reagan nearly upended Ford. The weakness of Carter 
allowed Reagan and the GOP a second chance. 
Weld is today's Reagan. Trump is the combined Nixon-Ford. 
Trump won't resign, and he will take Ford's thumping. 
Weld will deliver it; possibly in the primaries, making 
American history by unseating a sitting, incumbent president. 
I expect if that happens, Trump will refuse to concede and go. 
Then, things will become really interesting. 
If Weld's effort falls short, and Biden is the DNC choice,
Biden will win the general election. But....
Trump's damage to the economy may not show up until
well into Biden's term, in which case he will be blamed.
That will open the door for a GOP resurrection
under leadership of Weld. 

 


You can look away from a painting, but you can't listen away from a symphony
 

5/26/2019 3:04 pm  #10


Re: Fate of tRUMP's financial records will be decided by Merrick Garland

I'd really love to see tRUMP take a whooping from Weld and lose the nomination as a sitting POTUS. 

There's virtually NOTHING that he could realistically DO about it.  He seems to think that the military and the government BELONGS to him and would somehow protect him from being removed from office.

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