Thanks!  Much appreciated.

Of course, GOG is over on Woodbine’s board whining about how your mentioning my nick was ‘breaking a rule’ on Yellow.

Tattling fool…

Yeah, the whole thing is pretty whacked. I don't understand what they DON'T understand.

It's FINE if that's what someone WANTS to do (have a plantation destination wedding) but they SHOULD know what it's all about (the good, the bad, and the downright UGLY).

If people are turned off by it and don't want to go, they should at least understand WHY, even if they don't agree. 
 

Look how greenman has attacked and insulted me in the post above when I did not say anything about him.  Notice how many other times before this greenman has attacked me and my forum while I just ignored him.    That's why he is permanently banned.  greenman should have realized his ban would be extended because of the way he treated me.

SES
https://mb.boardhost.com/CivilizedDiscussion/msg/1642617808.html
I believe we need an executive decision to terminate this poster. He refuses
to separate his politics from reality of the pandemic and his self justification
of statistics to make his case. He is insensitive and disrespectful to a fault,
and uses these quotations of statistics in the same way GOG uses conspiracy
theories to promote dangerous misinformation. Furthermore he weaponizes them
for use in harassment and antagonization. I am the next man, and after what I've
been through, you'd think SES would have just a shred of humanity to leave it alone
and show some humanity, respect, and courtesy. He isn't interested in any of that. 

He shows every indication that he will continue and persist. His arguments already turned
the board into a shitshow revolving around him. 
My recommendation is terminate him. 

• "Politics" "politics" "politics". Blah blah blah.  Posted by SES on January 19, 2022, 1:43 pm, in reply to "The N95 mask keeps your virus mostly in you. " It isn't "politics" to look at the data and determine that Elementary School children are not at significant risk from COVID.

That's statistical analysis.

As of today, the CDC's website says that only 225 children age 5 to 14 have died from COVID in two years.

And that a majority of them had some other serious medical condition that contributed to their deaths.

Based on THAT, there is NO Scientific reason why 40 million Elementary School age children should be REQUIRED to wear masks in school to protect THEM.

And if "Scientists" insist that 40 million Elementary School age children SHOULD be required to wear masks in school to protect THEM, it simply is NOT based on the Science.

Some people will scream "Politics!!!"

But that's because they either see "politics" or "racism" anytime anyone disagrees with them.

It's strictly statistical analysis and assessment of risk tolerance.

Pikes Peak 14115 wrote:

terminate this poster. 

Instead of that, you could give a warning, or a temporary time-out/break.

Termination seems like an extreme step, but I don't read this forum very often, so I don't know how serious the problems are.  

greenman, mind your own business and please stop posting to/about me.  I agree to not post to/about you, unless I am replying to something you say about me.

Ken C wrote:

greenman, mind your own business and please stop posting to/about me.  I agree to not post to/about you, unless I am replying to something you say about me.

Not your board, asshat.  I’ll post to/about you if I damn well please.

It’s Sia’s decision who posts here and when.  I will accept her guidance on that and hers only.

Get lost.

greenman wrote:

Mind your own board’s business. You seem to have more than enough to do there. Just because you tolerate his bullsh!t doesn’t mean this board has to.

No everyone’s afraid of him…

Ken is a participant on this board and has as much right to weigh in on these topics as any other participant.

And on this particular topic, that should be "not at all," as Sia has requested we drop it, m'kay?

IMO termination at this time is both extreme, and unfair. But there is misconduct to address. First is outright mockery of and to any poster, including speaking for that poster with answers not his, because in SES' opinion the poster is determined by SES incapable of answering his question. Second is the ongoing badgering of posters, in particular with repetition of the same statistical material used to justify selfish and reckless demeanor regarding covid19 and public interaction in public. Danger of not wearing a mask in public came home to me over the last week, affirmed by my doctors and nurses. 

I brought this issue here specifically for group and administrative discussion, because two heads are better than one. This is a matter of and for reason, not emotion. 

No action was yet taken, and this issue is still in discussion, because it is important the right decision be made, and correct action taken. 

I am inclined to believe a warning is adequate, with specific address of mockery and badgering other member posters, and the correct action at this time. This is a proposal. 

Of course it’s my fault, that’s a given.  Ken can sh!t on me, but any criticism of him or any expression of my opinion of him or his board is somehow an ‘offense.’  Blah, blah..

Meanwhile, you keep the whole thing going, after sticking your nose into it unnecessarily in the first place!

‘Comedy gold,’ as you’re so fond of saying.

I (still) have nothing further to say as long as I don’t have to deal with another pointless personal attack.

Bye.

Bored of everything except having the last word, huh?

lol

I assumed it was to do with whether SES should be banned or not.  The quarrel between myself and Ken was something else, and would normally have just fizzled out (ahem).

You’re not in any way to blame, and I apologize for having gotten annoyed with Ken and caused unnecessary conflict.

Please resume play…(whistle)

Siagiah wrote:

Ken C wrote:

Siagiah, I'm sorry if I offended or disappointed you.  I would understand if you were upset about something I said, but here you are upset because I didn't say something.  That seems unfair.  I have a full time job.  I have hobbies and a bicycle that requires maintenance.  I don't have time to condemn all the attacks or correct all the lies on these forums.  

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Ken, I am well aware of your time restrictions.  I expect nothing from you or anyone else in that regard. That's hardly reasonable to expect someone to correct every vicious lie a liar spouts off.

My disappointment was that you DID respond to an extremely hateful and vicious attack - full of flat out LIES and outrageous accusations that you know are wrong, but chose not to say anything at all about that, instead criticizing us for not having a rule on our message board that we DO, in fact, have on our board.

The Back Alley is the only place where posters are allowed to say anything they want to and NO ONE has to come read it because it's NOT on the main board, so they must go out of their way to see it. Plus, it's ALWAYS in response to something crappy he or someone else did somewhere.  There are NO preemptive attacks.
 

That is not true.  I have been preemptively attacked here.  

You did not respond to correct the lies about me here.  Why do you expect me to defend you on Mondo's forum when you will not even defend me here on your own forum?

Usually I understand when people want to stay out of conflicts.  I'm not upset with other people who choose to stay out of things, but you expected me to defend you on Mondo's forum, while you just ignored the way I have been attacked and lied about here.  I don't understand this.
 

I've never gotten into the middle of you two's arguments about it for 2 reasons.

1- Ken, you're forgetting that I am not privy to what happened between you and greenman OR why you permanently banned him. So I wouldn't have a CLUE who might be lying or if it's simply a complete misunderstanding ??  Therefore, anything I might say would not be supported by anything factual and would likely only inflame things worse.

2- I like both of you very much so don't want to get involved in a conflict I cannot possibly help resolve and would only make an enemy of one or the other of you if I stuck my nose in. That's something I am loathe to do.  So, I simply don't respond rather than make things worse.

I also suspect that greenman doesn't know exactly what he said that offended you to the point where you banned him for life so that MIGHT be why he thinks that you did him wrong.  Perhaps you should tell him privately so there's no more confusion? Then he might still think it's unfair, but at least he will know WHY.

In addition, I was driving to my daughter's when most of it happened. By the time I got to read it, it had largely been resolved and Poppet had spoken up for your right to comment, in general. There was no need for me to restart the flames.

The difference between this circumstance and the one I was talking about on mondo's is that you DIRECTLY responded to the post full of lies about me on mongo's board and ADDED criticism to it by making a comment against our message board that wasn't accurate.

Also, my comment about the "preemptive attacks" was referring to mongo's attacks on us (and his sock puppets), that we hadn't started a problem with him, (not preemptively attacked) but had simply commented on problems HE started.  It had nothing to do with you.

  A couple of years ago, you pointed out to me that I'd participated in some slug-fests against you over here and that it hurt your feelings.  I hadn't considered that and felt terrible, so I apologized and since then have never added to anyone's complaints about you or how you moderate your board. In fact, I've stuck up for you a number of times on other boards when people made unfair comments.

However, LIS, I have NO IDEA what happened between you and greenman, so really can't comment, nor do I want to alienate either of you by butting in where it's none of my business.

If I've again hurt your feelings, I apologize. That is not my intent at all and I hope that I didn't.