Civilized General Discussion, the NEW BLUE BOARD / New discussion thread for "grousing about" and letting off steam

**Posted by Trish** 12/08/2023 11:08 am

Those are gone now. I do watch for repeats, but can't really justify removing all his posts because they're on topic (and have sometimes started a good discussion) Let me know if you see those I miss

**Posted by Trish** 12/08/2023 11:09 am

I also called out David today about his ongoing insults to posters. They are going to be deleted right quick. Enough already

**Posted by Siagiah** 12/08/2023 11:30 am

Was there a thread in between DFM's 3 in a row? If so, please remove my comment to him about it https://mb.boardhost.com/ReligionAndEthics/msg/1702052808.html and ignore my email report about it.

**Posted by greenman** 12/08/2023 4:36 pm

Lengthy example of ‘why the Middle East crisis is politics and should be banned’ (Starring DFM and SES!):

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Opinion: I reported on Hamas in Gaza for over a decade. Here are the questions I’m asking myself now - DFM December 8, 2023, 10:49 am

Too bad Bibi enabled Hamas for his own political gain. - There is that. December 8, 2023, 12:13 pm

greenman? Is that you? - CE0802 December 8, 2023, 1:24 pm [hilarious paranoia-no, it’s not]

We should provide context that notes how unverifiable [Hamas'] information is... - CE0802 December 8, 2023, 11:55 am

Like most of your posts. Unverified, or outright lies and slander. - There is that too. December 8, 2023, 12:13 pm

Heck, there are anti-Semites who still deny that many of the atrocities on October 7th... - CE0802 December 8, 2023, 1:17 pm
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Still not sure why trash like Meyer and SES are allowed to call people ‘terrorists’ and ‘antisemites’ for disagreeing. How’s that work, Ken?

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**Posted by greenman** 12/08/2023 4:55 pm

Not to mention that SES is referring directly and noisily to a banned poster.

I swear to god it’s like there’s one rule for me and a completely different rule for him.

This is why I hate R & E and have no intention of going back.

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**Posted by Poppet** 12/08/2023 6:41 pm

I agree, greenman: the (latest) Middle East blow-up "discussion" is basically politically-motivated flame warring and has not only started to dominate the board but has markedly lowered the already subterranean level of civility. There are some bad actors on either side.

That's too bad, because there are SO many ethical questions arising from this episode, and R&E should be the perfect place to address them (which I want to point out is something Bean's posts generally do). I've hesitated to jump in much, despite being requested to do so and having some fairly strong opinions about the ethical matters involved, because the subject is just a morass of bickering.

**Posted by Siagiah** 12/08/2023 7:09 pm

greenman wrote:
Not to mention that SES is referring directly and noisily to a banned poster.

I swear to god it’s like there’s one rule for me and a completely different rule for him.

This is why I hate R & E and have no intention of going back.

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https://mb.boardhost.com/ReligionAndEthics/msg/1702070670.html

greenman? Is that you?

Posted by CE0802 on December 8, 2023, 1:24 pm, in reply to "Too bad Bibi enabled Hamas for his own political gain."

I thought you were supposed to be gone until 2024?

**Posted by Pikes Peak 14115** 12/08/2023 10:02 pm

The public toilet clogged, overflowed, and went unreported for at least a few hours. All three of them. Floor is a mess, and the whiff seeped out into adjacent Customer Service.
There are no innocents among warring factions. My side is for the innocents caught in crossfire, targets of errant misses, or acceptable collateral damage as part of war.
Criticism of Israel does NOT make one antisemitic, nor is an expression of support for Hamas.

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**Posted by greenman** 12/09/2023 1:59 pm

Poppet wrote:
I agree, greenman: the (latest) Middle East blow-up "discussion" is basically politically-motivated flame warring and has not only started to dominate the board but has markedly lowered the already subterranean level of civility. There are some bad actors on either side.

That's too bad, because there are SO many ethical questions arising from this episode, and R&E should be the perfect place to address them (which I want to point out is something Bean's posts generally do). I've hesitated to jump in much, despite being requested to do so and having some fairly strong opinions about the ethical matters involved, because the subject is just a morass of bickering.

Agreed. And it’s only a few; even Bean, who is partisan, is reasonably civil.

David Mayer and CE0802 are the two big problems. I think everyone else could be reasonable.

**Posted by greenman** 12/09/2023 3:09 pm

But this harpy continues to engage in successful trolling..

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Your favorite Christian authors? - Devo December 9, 2023, 11:11 am

You did this a couple of weeks ago, too. - Muqwump December 9, 2023, 11:51 am

Do you enjoy reading books? - Devo December 9, 2023, 5:02 am

As opposed to what? - Sir Real December 9, 2023, 11:55 am

As opposed to what? - Muqwump December 9, 2023, 8:26 am

As opposed to nothing - Devo December 9, 2023, 9:53 am

As in Being or Nothingness? - Muqwump December 9, 2023, 11:53 am

a level for a table - Trish December 9, 2023, 8:45 am [good one, Trish]
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Nothing to offer but annoyance. But he knows how to suck up to the Moderator…

**Posted by Trish** 12/10/2023 4:23 pm

um excuse me I have been deleting his repetitive posts left right and center. My reply there was as a response to Mugwump's humor...

Please by all means take over for me.

**Posted by greenman** 12/10/2023 5:53 pm

Sorry, but the criticism wasn’t of you, Trish. I hold Ken exclusively responsible for the board and its posters.

And if I DID take over, it would be quite different, I can assure you..

**Posted by Pikes Peak 14115** 12/11/2023 1:42 am

Trish wrote:
um excuse me I have been deleting his repetitive posts left right and center. My reply there was as a response to Mugwump's humor...

Please by all means take over for me.

Thank you Trish. Almost like playground duty where you can't take eyes off the kids for a moment because one is a chronic biter and two others are habitual puppeteers.

**Posted by greenman** 12/14/2023 12:19 pm

Since I’ve heard nothing further, I assume that scumbag Ken is calling me a liar in regard to his false claims that I attacked his pet troll, Devo, a few weeks back.

I reject Ken, his mismanaged board (for which he alone is responsible), and his lies about me.

Go to hell, Kenniboi. I want nothing more to do with you. Trying to post on your s—tboard again was a waste of time from the start. I always had a target on my back.

**Posted by Trish** 12/14/2023 1:02 pm

I am fed up with Devo. I posted that his repeats will be deleted and two threads later.... he posts another repeat. I wish sometimes I could reach into my computer and grab him by the ear

**Posted by Ken C** 12/14/2023 1:32 pm

greenman, if you want nothing more to do with me, then please stop posting to/about me.

**Posted by greenman** 12/14/2023 4:46 pm

You don’t ever, EVER tell me what to do, you pathetic loser.

Take your board and shove it.

**Posted by greenman** 12/14/2023 5:39 pm

This is Ken’s board:

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More from the neo-Racists. HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!

Posted by CE0802 on December 14, 2023, 2:24 pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2023/12/14/boston-mayor-michelle-wu-anti-white-holiday-party/

"Hey! We're having a party! And no White people are allowed! YAY!!!"

This kind of neo-Racism is the greatest domestic threat we face.
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I’d ban that shithead for life. But I’m not driving around in a cute little electric car most of the time while people abuse my fake, never-enforced rules.

**Posted by Pikes Peak 14115** 12/14/2023 7:03 pm

Four new applicants want admission. I lookt at them but
don't act to admit. I depend on you, Sia. These four all look
like the same person using a bunch of nonsensical letters.

On the rant side, I am learning DFM is smaller and worse
than thought; a Zionist, conspiracy theorist, climate change denier,
crank, and Trumper. He supports an Israeli operation to kill
Hamas all over the world.without trial or confirmation, or respect,
to commit murder in other sovereign foreign nations. If there is
collateral damage to innocent civilians, that is still a justifiable
expense for the price of extermination of Hamas. If innocent
civilians die, that is an acceptable price of war. Says Israel is
justified to carry out war in any other sovereign nation on earth
it wants and targets.

He is reducing the definition between Hamas supporter, Palestinian supporter
or sympathizer and Hamas operative to a point where he may be unable
to distinguish a difference, nor care. So if my family was murdered
by an IDF mission, he might not just not care, but actually be happy about it.
because as I criticize Israel, I must be Hamas.

Where is the due process to determine if targets in other countries are Hamas?
He seems to think if the IDF declare someone Hamas, they are. Just like he
is the authority on climate change who knows it all and listens to nobody else.
Their word is authority and law, and so is his.

**Posted by Siagiah** 12/14/2023 7:34 pm

Pikes, I just deleted all four of them. As you suspected, they are all the same individual who has registered no less than 15 other times, all of which were rejected. They use ridiculous emails with ridiculous names and a proxy to put them in places all over the globe. I ignored the notifications since I was sure it was the same one after looking at their profiles, but just now deleted them all after a closer look to be certain they are just the same old troll. Thanks for the reminder.

**Posted by greenman** 12/15/2023 9:23 am

After that last YouTube BS from David Mayer, ‘Scaring Children for Fun and Profit,’ (not to mention his Zionist deceptions), the letters ‘DFM’ should be understood to stand for ‘Disinformation From Mayer.’

He’s replaced GOG as that board’s leading source of mischievous nonsense.

**Posted by Pikes Peak 14115** 12/15/2023 2:46 pm

greenman wrote:
After that last YouTube BS from David Mayer, ‘Scaring Children for Fun and Profit,’ (not to mention his Zionist deceptions), the letters ‘DFM’ should be understood to stand for ‘Disinformation From Mayer.’

He’s replaced GOG as that board’s leading source of mischievous nonsense.

There can't be two of us!
SES wrote that about me!

**Posted by greenman** 12/16/2023 7:55 am

Well, you have to consider the source!

While you may be mischievous, it’s not in a malicious or dishonest way…

**Posted by greenman** 12/16/2023 11:23 am

Idiot trollboy still at it..but of course I had to be banned..

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What's your religion?

Posted by Devo on December 16, 2023, 8:15 am

Me? It's theism.
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How many times has he (pretended to) ask that? Most worthless poster in board history..

**Posted by Trish** 12/16/2023 3:38 pm

Deleting them as fast as I see them :-)

**Posted by Siagiah** 12/17/2023 3:06 am

It appears that Ken is fed up with either troll-boy or complaints about him.

Devo is restricted to one post a day for the rest of December.

That signals the beginning of the end of toleration of his nonsense, "on topic" or not. Trolling is trolling no matter how "pretty" it is packaged to look as if it is appropriate.

**Posted by Poppet** 12/17/2023 5:12 pm

Maybe with that restriction Devo will put a bit more thought and effort into the posts. Maybe even respond a bit more often with a bit more content! Stranger things have happened...

Oh, and Sia: I saw your response to the "favorite philosopher" question. Thanks! (*blush*). I may answer that one myself...if I can avoid making a long list full of justifications no one wants to read! I wonder if I can stick to just one (probably AJ Ayer).

**Posted by Pikes Peak 14115** 12/20/2023 4:44 pm

Poppet wrote:
Maybe with that restriction Devo will put a bit more thought and effort into the posts. Maybe even respond a bit more often with a bit more content! Stranger things have happened...

Oh, and Sia: I saw your response to the "favorite philosopher" question. Thanks! (*blush*). I may answer that one myself...if I can avoid making a long list full of justifications no one wants to read! I wonder if I can stick to just one (probably AJ Ayer).

Don't hold your breath. You'll turn bluer than Sapporo ice sculptures.
Might be pretty.
Thought about that favorite philosopher question. For your inclusion, that needs to be
modified to favorite living philosophers. However my stated reasoning might be as flawed
as Kitty Carlisle describing why she voted tor No. 2. on To Tell the Truth.

**Posted by greenman** 12/21/2023 1:47 pm

The smug but partially-hidden political bias of Observer (Sophia):

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I wonder if Harvard’s President Gay getting away with plagiarism

Posted by observer on December 21, 2023, 9:34 am

might trigger retribution from students who were punished for the same unethical behavior?

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First we notice the disingenuousness - the assumption of guilt on the part of President Gay on which this ‘question’ is based.

Then the suggestion that she deserves ‘retribution’ from the student body. In what form?

And finally the real, political basis for the whole thing, that is, the accusations of ‘antisemitism’ against Gay and the far Right’s desire to see her removed from office, along with other (Liberal) college Presidents who’ve been sympathetic to the Palestinian cause.

Sophia really is very good at this..

**Posted by Siagiah** 12/21/2023 8:42 pm

Sophia/Shadow/Observer is a direct descendant of the Garden of Eden's serpent. Forked tongue, sly evil, slithering snake and all