Well, I thought it SO strange of a post that I fired off an email to him asking if he'd actually posted it or someone had stolen his nick.  He actually posted it. 

I pointed out what a disgraceful, un-moderated cesspool it is, full of hatred, misogyny, sexual harassment, conspiracy nonsense, and just plain CRAP.  He didn't disagree with that, but only stated that he always looks for the positives (since everyone else looks for the negatives) and that, no, he hasn't read any of the posts there.

So, I'm not at all sure WHY he went to the trouble to post it, but perhaps he thought he was being supportive of Woodbine (because several people are trashing his board) and somehow, he hasn't recognized that Woodbine is nowhere to be found??

IDK?


 

Kudos to you for cancelling a couple of political and misinformative posts on Yellow,
Trish, but having a board dominated by GOG, bauer and DFM is just as bad.

DFM’s LIES about global warming and oil pricing, and GOG’s paranoid lunacy (new claim: COVID created at U. of NC!) are just deranged.  Ken seems good with making his and Woodbine’s boards identical (and both more like Mongo’s hateboard)..

Sia was wise to choose membership for blue.

Wonder who this racist poster Blackbeard is?  Making racist posts on Mongo’s board about ‘dumb Negoes [sic]’ and attacking Muhammad as a ‘pedo’ on Ken’s board.

Repugnant in  any case.

Well, Woodbine showed up.  And he left a (presumably final) message.

“Administrator
As you may have noticed I have not been engaging with my, or any linked board. The reason for this is simple. I have nothing to say. The original aim for my board was to discuss the evolution creation "debate" and there was a time when this had some value but the DNA mapping of various species including the human genome project left no room for reasonable doubt regarding common ancestry which in itself is more than sufficient to debunk the Abrahamic creation stories, so the discussion ended there.
There was nothing much else to say.
The boards scope then naturally expanded to issues around ethics, morality and philosophy which is fertile ground for discussion, or, at least it should be.
An argument is made and the evidence supporting it is explained. Then the interlocutor can accept the conclusion or present a counter argument to which the proposer is similarly invited to respond.
To me, this back and forth is the basis of the discussion board and debate itself, but to many others here discussion is seen as something very different; counter arguments are seen as "hounding", using (my best efforts at) precise language is viewed as "insulting" and religious or spiritual (?) beliefs, no matter how bizarre or poorly evidence, are deemed sacrosanct and immune from question lest the believer become upset.
On one linked board I was actually sanctioned by the administrator for asking a person "why" they were proposing, what amounted to, an implausible conspiracy theory, and most posters agreed with the sanction. That was the Damascene moment for me.
I realised from that incident,and similar subsequent disagreements on my board, that what I want and expect from a discussion board is quite different from what most others want and expect.
This has drained my enthusiasm to moderate the board and as we can all see, left to the vagaries of poor arguments on an unmoderated board, it has descended into chaos, so I am left with no option but to close it down.
It may start up again but not with me as admin.”

So this went back a bit, apparently.

DNR sucks.  Even I had to laugh about GOG replying to posts he didn’t like on Woody’s board with ‘DNR.’  That was a bad idea from Day 1.  A lazy way of moderating a board, and a good way of stifling honest debate.

Attacking Woodbine for ‘badgering’ posters who couldn’t answer his questions or debate him intelligently was pretty offensive.  Especially when posters came over to HIS BOARD to do it.

greenman wrote:

DNR sucks. Even I had to laugh about GOG replying to posts he didn’t like on Woody’s board with ‘DNR.’ That was a bad idea from Day 1. A lazy way of moderating a board, and a good way of stifling honest debate.

Attacking Woodbine for ‘badgering’ posters who couldn’t answer his questions or debate him intelligently was pretty offensive. Especially when posters came over to HIS BOARD to do it.

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Except that is NOT what happened. 

He specifically ASKED both on Blue and on his own board WHY posters were getting so p*ssy with him and I told him why.  He disagreed. 

Several months went by.  Then he disappeared. How is that MY fault or me ATTACKING him?  I did nothing but answer his question about other poster's attitudes towards him.

You may have noticed that he specifically said:

An argument is made and the evidence supporting it is explained. Then the interlocutor can accept the conclusion or present a counter argument to which the proposer is similarly invited to respond.

To me, this back and forth is the basis of the discussion board and debate itself, but to many others here discussion is seen as something very different; counter arguments are seen as "hounding", using (my best efforts at) precise language is viewed as "insulting" and religious or spiritual (?) beliefs, no matter how bizarre or poorly evidence, are deemed sacrosanct and immune from question lest the believer become upset.

On one linked board I was actually sanctioned by the administrator for asking a person "why" they were proposing, what amounted to, an implausible conspiracy theory, and most posters agreed with the sanction. That was the Damascene moment for me.

I realised from that incident,and similar subsequent disagreements on my board, that what I want and expect from a discussion board is quite different from what most others want and expect.

 

Aaaaaand it gets worse...  I wandered over to see what B.S. GOG might be saying elsewhere... He's just unbelievable.  He blames YOU for it.  Absolutely NO concept of his own or mongo's blame for the trashed board.  Another suggested that someone emailed Woodbine about it.  Woodbine doesn't DO email.

Morons.
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Woodbrain folds his board.
Posted by GOG on July 24, 2022, 9:20 am 
Good. It was moribund from the start. His M.O. was to prove God is a human fantasy. He failed. That sad wasteland became infected with the dregs of internet society. My take is greenie was the overarching catalyst for the deterioration. Maybe SIA will reopen that board as an annex to Back Alley. Anyway, the personal benefit of the collapse is I no longer feel compelled to post there and make a fool of myself. RIP.

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• Woodbrain folds his board. - GOG July 24, 2022, 9:20 am

• The old hagfishes emailed him So he shut it down - greenie the troll will have severe withdrawals.
July 24, 2022, 1:10 pm 



• Yes. Greenie has no board. No more agitating. - GOG July 24, 2022, 2:00 pm


• Except he does have the back alley. LOLS. - GOG July 24, 2022, 2:01 pm

Twice DFM has violated Ken’s ‘no more than two posts in a row’ rule, and yet Kenniboi is on the Blue Board stirring things up and making dishonest accusations instead of moderating his own board (which he cannot/will not do even with Trish’s help).

Why is this tolerated?  Favoritism?

Trish wrote:

I probably just miss them. I can't spend a lot of time so I look for the worst issues

Not your fault, Trish.  I should just completely ignore that board.  It’s none of my business how it’s run.  Laughing occasionally at some of the antics of posters is one thing, but it’s not my board anymore.

Sorry.

Trish wrote:

I wasn't upset with you. I appreciated you pointing it out. I see you're taking a time out from the boards. We'll miss  you while you're gone

Thanks, Trish.  It has just gotten too stressful.  Too much conflict, not enough good posters to balance the bad.  The last year’s been dreadful, boards dominated by people I can’t stand, dishonest arguments, harassment, etc.  I don’t think I’m the only one - I see Ish is leaving R & E, too.  Woodbine dropping out, then taking his board with him was a big blow, too.

Maybe I’ll come back sometime and see if it’d be worth starting my own board.  Who knows.  But until then, thanks for being one of the good posters, it’s been a pleasure.

g-man

Last edited by greenman (7/31/2022 9:59 am)

Trish wrote:

Hey has anyone heard from Poppet? Trusting she is well.

Yes, she's fine.  She's taking some "me time".  I've noticed her popping (ha!) in and out on the board, perhaps just observing now and then. But she is perfectly fine, don't worry.
 

What she said.

(best wishes, Sara)

Woodbine's board has reopened.  No idea why, but it is accepting posts again.

What the hell is going on over on SUM/Woodbine's green board?

MULTIPLE posts and even entire threads have disappeared, causing several threads to make absolutely NO SENSE at all with too much missing to follow the remaining responses.

Plus, what happened to THIS ONE?  Is SUM regretting making public announcements against particular posters?  (I hope so because, IMHO, it's a huge mistake to do that)



But then again, this one remains?  What?  Does HH not deserve the same courtesy of removing the thread announcing he's banned?  and "he serves no useful purpose" is the reason ???  Really ???



CE0802/SES's post was deleted without comment, presumably because of his trashing of greenman, but why not simply EDIT it instead to preserve the thread's integrity?  Or did SUM banish him too, but simply not announce it ??


Encouraging GOG to post his idiotic, implausible theories and threatening "annoying, but otherwise harmless" posters with banishment while declaring that administration will be capricious and inconsistently applied isn't exactly a recipe for success. The rules are completely different from just yesterday.  I suggest everyone read them.


I have SERIOUS reservations about wasting my time there. 

On top of all of this, that idiot, Scalese actually thinks that I am SUM.  ROFLMAO.  As if.  If he had the slightest clue he'd know that I would NEVER make those "rules" and would not do nor post several of the things that SUM has done.

I first thought that SUM was Woodbine in disguise.  I'm not at all convinced of that anymore.  I have my suspicions, but won't voice them directly until I'm more convinced about who it might actually be.

In any case, the rules appear to be changing there on a daily, if not hourly pace.  When it finally shakes out, I'll decide if I want to remain.

I'm simply spouting off here rather than there because I'm bewildered and disturbed by what's happening there, but don't want to antagonize the ADMIN by doing so in his/her backyard.

Thoughts?  Theories? 
 

Maybe Woodbine sold the management rights to Deanna.